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AdamL (Adaml)
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Post Number: 1321
Registered: 08-2001
Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 07:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Spice World is the only one I've seen and I didn't think it was awful either. I didn't think it was good mind you, but there were many worse films that year.
Looking forward to Passion of the Christ 2
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AboutFilm host (Carlo)
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Post Number: 5764
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

The Razzies recognize turkeys, not necessarily the very worst.
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Son Of... (Docscribe)
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Post Number: 6017
Registered: 05-2001
Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Then among this year's picks, why not Stepford Wives, Van Helsing, Without A Paddle or even Win A Date With Tad Hamilton (or so I hear)? The Razzies seem to leave movies alone if they at least performed, indicating the award is more about boxoffice/studio/stars/expectations than quality.
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Son Of... (Docscribe)
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Post Number: 6043
Registered: 05-2001
Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

The Aviator Wins The BAFTA
  • Picture
  • Supporting Actress
  • Production Design
  • Make-up

Pretty thin win with no director award (that went to Mike Leigh for Vera Drake). An Oscar harbinger?
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AdamL (Adaml)
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Post Number: 1340
Registered: 08-2001
Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Not a particularly entertaining show this year. Dreadful speaches by most.

I like the fact that there is rarely a BAFTA juggernaut as there often is at the Academy Awards. I think the 4 wins for The Aviator was the most for any film. Even Return of the King only won 4 last year. An award like Editing, which is often thrown in with Best Picture like package deal at the Oscars, was given to Eternal Sunshine (the one Eternal Sunshine award that I dont begrudge.) Collateral won best Cinematography which is a very good choice in my book.

It wasn't all good though. The picture/director split was nonsensical. These splits should be extremely rare in my eyes but they seem to be becoming more and more frequent. That said I did have a $10 bet on Mike Leigh at 6-1 so wont complain too much
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Son Of... (Docscribe)
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Post Number: 6045
Registered: 05-2001
Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Adam re:

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An award like Editing, which is often thrown in with Best Picture like package deal at the Oscars...



...for pretty good reasons on the whole. Folks often mistake flashy, gimmicky cutting for good editing, when this craft is typically at its best when you notice it the least*. Since most A-class directors collaborate very closely with their editors (the butt-saving alliance between Steven Spielberg and Verna Fields on Jaws being one of the most legendary examples), I never have much of a problem with that tandem voting, especially on a Best Picture. In fact, it's appropriate that the editor share the glory in the artistic and commercial success of that calibre of film.

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...was given to Eternal Sunshine (the one Eternal Sunshine award that I dont begrudge.)



...and the one that left me head-scratching, despite what I just said about the collaborative nature of this craft. True, the editing in Eternal Sunshine didn't get in the way of the director or writer's vision, and for the most part was seamless, but one of the standout features of Gondry's direction of this film was how carefully he staged so many of its reality/memory transitions 'live' using real time lighting, costume, and set changes instead of traditional cuts. So IMO its rather ironic that Eternal Sunshine would win for the one craft that it did not use to its fullest in post production. Kinda like applauding the editor for not f#cking it up, or something.

But man, has Gondry ever got the stick from almost every awards venue this year. Kudos seem to be going to everyone but him.

* Same inverse reason why the most obvious make-up and effects always seem to win.
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AdamL (Adaml)
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Username: Adaml

Post Number: 1341
Registered: 08-2001
Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 07:06 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Well I was thinking of Return of the King's Oscar editing win last year, amongst others. I haven't seen it but everyone that has commented on it suggested that it was poorly edited even if they didn't say so explicitly.


This...


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Kinda like applauding the editor for not f#cking it up, or something.




seems at odds with this...


quote:

this craft is typically at its best when you notice it the least




So some of the transitions were handled in other ways, many weren't, and it all seemed pretty seemless to me.
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Son Of... (Docscribe)
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Post Number: 6049
Registered: 05-2001
Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post

That's what I think they think they're honouring here...attributing the seamlessness of this crazy-quilt film to its editor, rather than the director's intricate mapping, staging, and pacing. And yeah, I do believe that on oversealous traditional editor who didn't 'get' Gondry's in-camera cutting style, might very well have f#cked it up.

Other than the writer and director, I'd be applauding the cinematographyer over the editor on this one. Sort of like Hitchcock's stuff, where his economy of story design and shooting left nothing for the editor to play around with...it only fit together one way.
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Son Of... (Docscribe)
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Post Number: 6053
Registered: 05-2001
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Well, here's a film we haven't seen much of (as much as expected) this season: A Very Long Engagement just won the American Society of Cinematographers (ASC) Award for DP Bruno Delbonnel.
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yossarian (Yossarian)
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Post Number: 413
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 01:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Yes, a big surprise. The biggest loser? The Aviator. A sweep at the techies guilds would've given it some buzz.

Here's another disappointment for The Aviator:

Art Direction Guild Awards
Excellence in Production Design- Period/Fantasy Films
The Aviator- Dante Ferretti
Finding Neverland- Gemma Jackson
The Incredibles- Lou Romano
Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events- Rick Heinrichs *WINNER*
The Phantom of the Opera- Anthony Pratt

Excellence in Production Design- Contemporary Films
Collateral- David Wasco
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind- Dan Leigh
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou- Mark Friedberg
Million Dollar Baby- Henry Bumstead
The Terminal- Alex McDowell *WINNER*
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Son Of... (Docscribe)
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Post Number: 6074
Registered: 05-2001
Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post

This just in from Variety re: the WGA Awards
  • Eternal Sunshine for Original
  • Sideways for Adapted

Keep in mind that there are often major departures between the Writer's Guild and Academy in these categories.
Wake me when the 2005 movie year starts.
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yossarian (Yossarian)
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Post Number: 417
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

American Cinematic Editors (ACE) Awards
The Aviator (Drama)
Ray (Musical/Comedy)

Ray's editing was average at best. Eternal Sunshine should've won.

Costume Designers Guild (CDG) Awards
Lemony Snicket: A Series of Unfortunate Events (Period)
?????? (Contemporary)

A surprising loss for The Aviator's Sandy Powell. And a second guild win for Lemony Snicket (!)
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Monterey Jack (Monty)
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Username: Monty

Post Number: 1337
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post



quote:

American Cinematic Editors (ACE)




So that's what A.C.E. stands for!!!
Nice try, Lao Che!
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Oh yeah? (Thezookieman)
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Username: Thezookieman

Post Number: 2532
Registered: 06-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

:)

I'm sure there are quite a few other acronyms that are seen during the credits of a film that leave people scratching their heads, as in "What does that mean?" There oughta be a website devoted to explaining them...
Eagerly waiting for Big Brother Africa 2...
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yossarian (Yossarian)
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Username: Yossarian

Post Number: 421
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 06:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Razzie Awards
Catwoman
- Picture
- Director
- Actress (Halle Berry)
- Screenplay

Fahrenheit 9/11
- Actor (George Bush)
- Sup. Actor (Donald Rumsfeld)
- Sup. Actress (Britney Spears)
- Screen Couple (George W. Bush & either Condolezza Rice or "My Pet Goat")

I think George W. is only the second president to receive a Razzie (Reagan received a special lifetime achievement award for his Brando-esque career... God bless, the ol' Gipper :) and God bless, these beloved Republicans).

Excerpt from herself:

quote:

Berry was named worst actress of 2004 by the Golden Raspberry Award Foundation for her performance in "Catwoman" and she showed up to accept her "Razzie" carrying the Oscar she won in 2002 for "Monster's Ball."

"They can't take this away from me, it's got my name on it!" she quipped. A raucous crowd cheered her on as she gave a stirring recreation of her Academy Award acceptance speech, including tears.

She thanked everyone involved in "Catwoman," a film she said took her from the top of her profession to the bottom.

"I want to thank Warner Brothers for casting me in this piece of shit," she said as she dragged her agent on stage and warned him "next time read the script first."

It is rare for a Razzie winner to show up at the spoof awards held on the night before Oscars -- but Berry did, saying her mother taught her that to be "a good winner you had to be a good loser first." She received a standing ovation.




I have a newfound sense of respect for Halle Berry. I couldn't see someone as high-maintenance as, say, Gwyneth Paltrow making fun of herself like this.
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Monterey Jack (Monty)
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Post Number: 1355
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Is this only the second time in history that someone has personally accepted a Razzie? I know Paul Verhoeven accepted his Worst Director and Picture awards for Showgirls...
Nice try, Lao Che!
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AboutFilm host (Carlo)
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Username: Carlo

Post Number: 5850
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post

George Bush winning the Razzie is a joke gone way too far.

A tip of the hat to Halle Berry for having a sense of humor. My respect for her has gone way up.

I saw that p.o.s. on DVD the other day--didn't cost me anything extra as I have Netflix and I was curious.

Yep, it was bad.

I think there needs to be a moratorium on comic book movies for about five years. But no, we're getting several more in 05.

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Son Of... (Docscribe)
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Post Number: 6098
Registered: 05-2001
Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

You go Halle! I'll see her next 3 pictures just because of that uncommon display of moxie and class.

Truthfully though, I disliked Monster (in total, not necessarily her in it) more than the 16 or so minutes of Catwoman that I could stand before ejecting.
Wake me when the 2005 movie year starts.
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Monterey Jack (Monty)
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Username: Monty

Post Number: 1358
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I believe you meant Monster's Ball, Doc. Monster was the one with the uglied-up Charlize Theron.
Nice try, Lao Che!
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yossarian (Yossarian)
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Username: Yossarian

Post Number: 428
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post


quote:

Is this only the second time in history that someone has personally accepted a Razzie? I know Paul Verhoeven accepted his Worst Director and Picture awards for Showgirls...



Tom Green also accepted his awards (Freddy Got Fingered swept the Razzies that year).


Back to non-Razzie awards...

UK Directors Guild Award
Clint Eastwood, Million Dollar Baby
Martin Scorsese, The Aviator
Michel Gondry, Eternal Sunshine
Bill Condon, Kinsey
????? (yes, haven't got a clue who the fifth nominee was)
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yossarian (Yossarian)
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Username: Yossarian

Post Number: 437
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 02:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Let's end the whole Best of 2004 lists hullabaloo with Film Comment
Readers' Poll


Top 30:
1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, U.S.) (2)
2. Sideways (Alexander Payne, U.S.) (1)
3. Before Sunset (Richard Linklater, U.S.) (3)
4. Million Dollar Baby (Clint Eastwood, U.S.) (4)
5. Kill Bill Vol. 2 (Quentin Tarantino, U.S.) (8)
6. The Aviator (Martin Scorsese, U.S.) (12)
7. Dogville (Lars von Trier, Denmark) (9)
8. Bad Education (Pedro Almódovar, Spain) (11)
9. Fahrenheit 9/11 (Michael Moore, U.S.) (15)
10. Vera Drake (Mike Leigh, U.K.) (7)
11. The Incredibles (Brad Bird, U.S.) (13)
12. I &#9829; Huckabees (David O. Russell, U.S.) (16)
13. The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou (Wes Anderson, U.S.) (42)
14. Collateral (Michael Mann, U.S.) (18)
15. The Motorcycle Diaries (Walter Salles, Brazil/Argentina) (43)
16. The Saddest Music in the World (Guy Maddin, Canada) (27)
17. Maria Full of Grace (Joshua Marston, U.S./Colombia) (30)
18. House of Flying Daggers (Zhang Yimou, China) (19)
19. Garden State (Zach Braff, U.S.) (-)
20. Moolaadé (Ousmane Sembene, Senegal) (10)
21. Kinsey (Bill Condon, U.S.) (28)
22. The Five Obstructions (Lars von Trier & Jørgen Leth, Denmark) (23)
23. Napoleon Dynamite (Jared Hess, U.S.) (49)
24. Closer (Mike Nichols, U.S.) (-)
25. The Return (Andrei Zvygintsev, Russia) (24)
26. Goodbye Dragon Inn (Tsai Ming-liang, Taiwan) (5)
27. Notre musique (Jean-Luc Godard, France/Switzerland) (6)
28. Hotel Rwanda (Terry George, U.K.) (48)
29. Crimson Gold (Jafar Panahi, Iran) (14)
30. Shaun of the Dead (Edgar Wright, U.K.) (44)

http://filmlinc.com/fcm/3-4-2005/rpoll.htm

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