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AdamL (Adaml)
Cinematographer
Username: Adaml
Post Number: 2449
Registered: 08-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 01:28 pm: | 
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Think these were lost when the server went down a while ago so before I begin check out 7 years of the prestigious AFFAs:
2001*
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
*Incomplete because I couldn't find the who else was nominated for original screenplay. If you know, let me know! |
AdamL (Adaml)
Cinematographer
Username: Adaml
Post Number: 2450
Registered: 08-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 01:31 pm: |
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As for this year, here's where to ask questions ahead of the awards. Eligibility questions are commonly asked for example.
Last year we ditched presentations which, in my view, was overdue. Although they've been great in the past, more recently they simply cause loads of hassle for whoever it is whose in charge of the post nominations section (invariably CJ) who has to fill in for AWOL presenters. Also the thing overruns massively and people tend to forget that it's even underway.
That said, if there's a groundswell of opinion that people would like to bring back individual presentations, let's hear it. |
AdamL (Adaml)
Cinematographer
Username: Adaml
Post Number: 2451
Registered: 08-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 01:34 pm: |
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List of Awards
Best Picture
Best Director
Best Actor
Best Actress
Best Supporting Actor
Best Supporting Actress
Best Original Screenplay
Best Adapted Screenplay
Best Ensemble
Best Foreign Film
Best Animated Film
Best Documentary
Best Cinematography
Best Editing
Best Score
Best Music
Best Art Direction
Best Special Effects
Breakthrough/Debut - Filmmaker
Breakthrough/Debut - Actor
Best Ending
The Pearls Before Swine Award
The 'You Ruined the Movie' Award
Biggest Turkey
Any changes needed? |
AdamL (Adaml)
Cinematographer
Username: Adaml
Post Number: 2452
Registered: 08-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 01:44 pm: |
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Proposed Schedule:
Nominations open:
Monday 26th January
Nominations Close:
Sunday 8th February (2 whole weeks to nominate!)
Voting begins:
Tuesday 10th February
Voting Ends:
Tuesday 17th February
AFFA Awards: Sunday 22nd February (same day as the Oscars, but only one will capture the imagination of the public)
No presentations makes things a lot more relaxed. Previously I've given 1 week to nominate but that has never seemed enough, hence 2 this time.
Any objections to any of that? |
AdamL (Adaml)
Cinematographer
Username: Adaml
Post Number: 2453
Registered: 08-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 01:48 pm: |
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Finally, I will do my usual and tally nominations and post the list of nominees. Usually CJ does the post nominations stuff but I'm happy to do it as long as I am not organising presentations and presenters etc! Did you still want to do it CJ - ie count votes and prepare a presentation page - or shall I?! I really don't mind either way. |
AdamL (Adaml)
Cinematographer
Username: Adaml
Post Number: 2454
Registered: 08-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 01:53 pm: |
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Oh and feel free to use this page for 'For Your Considerations.'
Here's one...
Twilight (Carter Burwell) for Best Score |
AdamL (Adaml)
Cinematographer
Username: Adaml
Post Number: 2455
Registered: 08-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 02:00 pm: |
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And another...
Hancock (John Powell) for Best Score |
Jeff Vorndam (Jeff)
Cinematographer
Username: Jeff
Post Number: 1145
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 06:47 pm: |
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Is 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days eligible?
You want to be fooled.
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AdamL (Adaml)
Cinematographer
Username: Adaml
Post Number: 2456
Registered: 08-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 07:08 pm: |
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I checked back on last year and we said it would be eligible for this year so yes.
I still haven't got round to seeing it though so shall try and remedy that! |
Monty (Monty)
Movie Star
Username: Monty
Post Number: 5079
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 10:13 pm: |
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I wish The Wrestler would f*cking open, already.
Meryl Streep's "Versatility". Smell like Streep...for cheap!
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Son Of... (Docscribe)
Studio Mogul
Username: Docscribe
Post Number: 9822
Registered: 05-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 12:55 am: |
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For Your Consideration: The Fall in just about every category except Documentary and Animated film.
Frankly, they had me at the credits.
"And then his siggy just went *POOF*"
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Kathy (Kk1024)
Cinematographer
Username: Kk1024
Post Number: 2054
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 11:04 am: |
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I wish The Wrestler would f*cking open, already.
We don't have Milk or Frost/Nixon playing here yet either. |
AdamL (Adaml)
Cinematographer
Username: Adaml
Post Number: 2457
Registered: 08-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 12:28 pm: |
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Will The Wrestler, Milk and Frost/Nixon have opened where you two are by the time the AFFAs get underway?
Does the nominations deadline of 8th of Feb give you enough time to see those films? |
Kathy (Kk1024)
Cinematographer
Username: Kk1024
Post Number: 2055
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 01:10 pm: |
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I will travel to the Ritz. I am mostly griping about the method in which movies are distributed outside of major markets. |
AboutFilm host (Carlo)
Moderator
Username: Carlo
Post Number: 7485
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 02:38 pm: |
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Adding The Fall to my DVD queue at the top.
AboutFilm President and Sugar Daddy (www.aboutfilm.com); OFCS Member (www.ofcs.org)
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Kathy (Kk1024)
Cinematographer
Username: Kk1024
Post Number: 2057
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 03:45 pm: |
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Where are WE putting Kate for The Reader? I think she's a lead. |
Kathy (Kk1024)
Cinematographer
Username: Kk1024
Post Number: 2058
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 03:45 pm: |
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Where are WE putting Kate for The Reader? I think she's a lead. |
Monty (Monty)
Movie Star
Username: Monty
Post Number: 5083
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 05:32 pm: |
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Actually, The Wrestler is playing in a Boston theater I have access to. I'll probably see that this Saturday and Revolutionary Road next weekend in time for AFFA voting.
Meryl Streep's "Versatility". Smell like Streep...for cheap!
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James (James)
Production Assistant
Username: James
Post Number: 363
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 05:45 pm: |
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Kathy
I feel you can put her in either category, whichever category you want to put her in is what I feel. If you want to put her lead put her lead if you want to put her. |
AdamL (Adaml)
Cinematographer
Username: Adaml
Post Number: 2459
Registered: 08-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 06:42 pm: |
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The way it has worked in the past is that lead and supporting nominations for the same performance all count towards whichever bracket gains the most noms. Thus, for example, Winslet receiving 4 lead nominations and 6 supporting nominations would count as 10 supporting nominations, whereas 8 lead and 1 supporting = 9 lead etc. |
Kathy (Kk1024)
Cinematographer
Username: Kk1024
Post Number: 2060
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 11:18 pm: |
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Thanks for the clarification. |
Nicola_D (Nicola_d)
Key Grip
Username: Nicola_d
Post Number: 880
Registered: 05-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 01:09 am: |
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How'd I miss The Fall? It must have opened in my area for at most a week or two. Did this film ever get a wide release? Its distributor should be shot. I have to think that seeing the DVD on a small screen can't do the film justice. |
AdamL (Adaml)
Cinematographer
Username: Adaml
Post Number: 2461
Registered: 08-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 04:47 pm: |
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I've never even heard of The Fall, and I like to think I follow films a little more closely than the average person, so god knows how anyone else heard of it. IMDb tells me it was released over here on October 3rd. Who knew.
Have added it to my DVD remtal queue but doubtful I'll see it before AFFAs since it's not been released here yet. |
fishstick (Fishstick)
Cinematographer
Username: Fishstick
Post Number: 1656
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 10:20 pm: |
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Best Picture: TDK
Best Director: Christopher Nolan
Best Actor:RDJ (Iron Man)
Best Actress:Michelle Williams (Wendy&Lucy)
Best Supporting Actor: Heath Ledger (TDK)
Best Supporting Actress: Gwyneth Paltrow (Iron Man)
Best Original Screenplay: there are original screenplays?
Best Adapted Screenplay:TDK
Best Ensemble:TDK
Best Foreign Film:Let the Right One In
Best Animated Film:
Best Documentary
Best Cinematography
Best Editing
Best Score:AR Rahman (Slumdog Millionaire)
Best Music: "O Saya" or "Ringa Ringa" (Slumdog Millionaire, if you mean Best Song, otherwise Liquid Dance from the same movie)
Best Art Direction
Best Special Effects
Breakthrough/Debut - Filmmaker: LTROI guy
Breakthrough/Debut - Actor: Lena Leandersson (LOTROI) and Azharuddin Momammed Ismail (Slumdog Millionaire)
Best Ending: Iron Man and LOTROI
The Pearls Before Swine Award
The 'You Ruined the Movie' Award: OLGA KURYLENKO (Quantum of Solace) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Biggest Turkey: Day When Earth Stood Still
"The time has come for Daniel Day Lewis to start attending Overactors Anonymous meetings." - Carlo
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AboutFilm host (Carlo)
Moderator
Username: Carlo
Post Number: 7488
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 02:17 am: |
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quote:The Pearls Before Swine Award
The 'You Ruined the Movie' Award: OLGA KURYLENKO (Quantum of Solace) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Definitely a contender. I also nominate Tom Cruise in Valkyrie.
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Son Of... (Docscribe)
Studio Mogul
Username: Docscribe
Post Number: 9825
Registered: 05-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 11:13 am: |
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Carlo, Nicola, and Adam...
My first awareness of The Fall was in the late spring/early summer of '08 while I was waiting for another movie to start (which might have been Iron Man actually). Although the vaguely weird 1-sheet for The Fall didn't exactly do it for me, I popped in for a few minutes during one of the early hospital scenes just as the fantasy storyline was beginning. To my surprise, even out of context I thought those snippets were intriguing, so I made a mental note to see The Fall the following week. Unfortunately, within the span of mere days, it was already gone.
I kind of forgot about it after that, until about a week before Christmas while I was shopping for my Blu-ray supply to get me through the '12 days of Christmas'. Without hesitation, I snapped up the only BD in the store, and it was the first out of that batch I watched. It's still difficult to verbalize that experience...the imagination and beauty of this piece just floored me...I mean, I was alternately "oohing and aahhhing, and laughing and crying." And it was startling...nothing on screen in '08 had come close to that magnificent cinematic ambition. So I started digging into how this project came about, and why something so special could apparently just 'fall' through the cracks like this on an International scale...
For more info, check out Roger Ebert's Interview with Tarsem...preferably after you've seen the film, because I definitely think there's some benefit to not knowing too much about it going in.
"And then his siggy just went *POOF*"
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Nicola_D (Nicola_d)
Key Grip
Username: Nicola_d
Post Number: 882
Registered: 05-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 12:18 pm: |
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RE: The Fall: $3.4 million worldwide B.O. Ouch! |
Son Of... (Docscribe)
Studio Mogul
Username: Docscribe
Post Number: 9826
Registered: 05-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 01:18 pm: |
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Well Nicola, during the summer of '82 when it seemed audiences only wanted to see warm-fuzzy SF-fantasy (à la E.T.), the unrelentingly sombre and reflective Blade Runner was a HUGE B.O. flop. However, because of home video and theatrical re-releases over the years, it has slowly and steadily evolved into one of Warners all-time top money-earners. Wizard of Oz is probably the most profitable *flop* of all time.
Although most movies that outright fizzle at the B.O. are deficient in some critical way, sometimes very good films simply fail to find their most appreciative audience via that venue. I think The Fall will be one of those cultier works that will problably have a long afterlife on disc as it gets discovered, and rediscovered.
"And then his siggy just went *POOF*"
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Nicola_D (Nicola_d)
Key Grip
Username: Nicola_d
Post Number: 883
Registered: 05-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 01:57 am: |
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Doc: Yep, I remember that. Another similar example that same year was one of my personal favorites-John Carpenter's The Thing, although I doubt it was ever a hit.
My favorite film of 2007 was The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, and it made less than $20 million world-wide, despite overwhelmingly good critical reviews, so obviously quality doesn't always translate to good B.O.
However, my comment really had more to do with my sympathies for Tarsem's out-of-pocket loss....
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Son Of... (Docscribe)
Studio Mogul
Username: Docscribe
Post Number: 9829
Registered: 05-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 03:28 am: |
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Actually Nicola, I almost included Carpenter's The Thing in that blurb as another example of 'flops that eventually aren't'. Basically, that one had much the same afterlife as Blade Runner, minus the theatrical re-releases. The Thing has been available in every home video format, including laserdisc and both HD formats, and has been given 3 releases on North American DVD alone. So this picture has morphed from Carpenter's dark folly, into one of Universal's evergreen home video properties.
But you're right, quality really has nothing to do with B.O. performance anyway...especially in the case of The Fall, since its theatrical release was handled by a very inexperienced outsider, Roadshow Attractions (which alone, probably explains a lot).
"And then his siggy just went *POOF*"
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fishstick (Fishstick)
Cinematographer
Username: Fishstick
Post Number: 1658
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 12:34 pm: |
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More Nominees for You Ruined the Movie:
Catherine Hardwicke direction (Twilight)
The voice twist (Eagle Eye...that was stuuuuuuuuuupid,man!)
Bathtub with money homi-suicide (Slumdog Millionaire...10000+ treads on Internet bitching about it should make it a rival to Cruise`s sure-fire win)
Lucas fingerprints (Indiana Jones Nukes the Fridge and other Lucasian dumbness)
i`ll think of more. Anyone wanna explain pearl before swine to me? I mean, what does it mean so that I can nominate people?
"The time has come for Daniel Day Lewis to start attending Overactors Anonymous meetings." - Carlo
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Kathy (Kk1024)
Cinematographer
Username: Kk1024
Post Number: 2062
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 12:51 pm: |
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Pearls before swine is something wonderful in an otherwise mediocre(or poor)film. |
Alex Dr_Evil (Drevil)
Cinematographer
Username: Drevil
Post Number: 1837
Registered: 05-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 01:06 pm: |
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Best Actor:RDJ (Iron Man)
Really??? Ahead of Rourke, Penn, DiCaprio, Langella, Eastwood, Pitt, etc.?
And this is coming from a big RDJ fan. |
AdamL (Adaml)
Cinematographer
Username: Adaml
Post Number: 2463
Registered: 08-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 01:34 pm: |
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quote:Lucas fingerprints (Indiana Jones Nukes the Fridge and other Lucasian dumbness)
On that subject, Lucas or not, I submit the Tarzan scene. Just awful. That said I think the movie was rubbish anyway but even so... |
Son Of... (Docscribe)
Studio Mogul
Username: Docscribe
Post Number: 9830
Registered: 05-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 01:37 pm: |
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FYC:
You Ruined the Movie: Tom Cruise's extended hamminess in Tropic Thunder.
"And then his siggy just went *POOF*"
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Son Of... (Docscribe)
Studio Mogul
Username: Docscribe
Post Number: 9831
Registered: 05-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 01:53 pm: |
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Alex re Fish's Actor picks:
quote:Best Actor:RDJ (Iron Man)
Really??? Ahead of Rourke, Penn, DiCaprio, Langella, Eastwood, Pitt, etc.?
Me too. His performance was that movie...IMO it would have been Hulk-style dreck otherwise.
At this point Downey Jr's only serious competition for my top spot is from Mickey Rourke. On both their heels, are Lee Pace and Sean Penn. The rest (DiCaprio, Langella, Eastwood, Pitt) are just the 'usual suspects' in what struck me as typically contrived and overly telegraphed Oscar-gimme roles.
"And then his siggy just went *POOF*"
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Alex Dr_Evil (Drevil)
Cinematographer
Username: Drevil
Post Number: 1838
Registered: 05-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 09:41 pm: |
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Yeah, but he was just Robert Downey Jr. being Robert Downey Jr (one could accurately say the same about Eastwood, to be fair)--sarcastic, dry, and detached. I'm glad he was cast, because he elevated the movie above what it should have been, but I don't think his performance was necessarily anything spectacular. What he did in Tropic Thunder required far more range/versatility. And it certainly doesn't touch what, say, Sean Penn did in Milk. |
Son Of... (Docscribe)
Studio Mogul
Username: Docscribe
Post Number: 9835
Registered: 05-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 11:33 pm: |
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Well, mostly I agree with you Alex, but I just think Downey Jr.'s creative contribution to the success of Iron Man as a successful narrative has been w-a-y undervalued. So whether he was allowed to riff on his own personality improvisationally in this project, is kind of irrelevant to me...in context, his acting choices worked beautifully, and sustained an otherwise somewhat thin concept.* I'm trying not to fall into the trap of dismissing the considerable thought and creativity that went into that work - or its value - simply because it was within the comic book genre.
* Most of this introductory storyline was about him evolving into HIM...and until the end, there was very little sustained action of Iron Man confronting/combatting the baddy.
"And then his siggy just went *POOF*"
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fishstick (Fishstick)
Cinematographer
Username: Fishstick
Post Number: 1659
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 09:20 am: |
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Tha put RDJ in pearls category. The movie would be Fanastic Four vitout him. But I stand by my opinion, he gave one of top 2 leading performances. he and Mickey.
"The time has come for Daniel Day Lewis to start attending Overactors Anonymous meetings." - Carlo
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Son Of... (Docscribe)
Studio Mogul
Username: Docscribe
Post Number: 9843
Registered: 05-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 01:53 am: |
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fish it's rather disquieting...verging on disturbing...that we agree on Best Actor(s) this year.
Are you sure you won't give 2001 another chance? 
"And then his siggy just went *POOF*"
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fishstick (Fishstick)
Cinematographer
Username: Fishstick
Post Number: 1665
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 09:20 am: |
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I liked when the old austronaut turned into a baby who travels the space. The part with a computer (stolen from Eagle Eye...not) was scary too but they deserved it because he wanted to befriend them and they wanted to shut him down after the first mistake. But the movie was so slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow. I can forgive many things but boredom. no excuse.
"The time has come for Daniel Day Lewis to start attending Overactors Anonymous meetings." - Carlo
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C.J. (Thief)
Movie Star
Username: Thief
Post Number: 3784
Registered: 07-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 06:54 pm: |
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Sorry about not posting earlier but I'm currently with no Internet access at home and my work firewall is blocking AboutFilm. Casually, I just ordered Internet installation at home today, which will happen tomorrow, so I will be able to get online more frequently.
Anyway, I think I can handle the nominations stuff as per usual.
"Ain't war hell?"
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